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crossings
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Do all different MPC models have the same MIDI pad layout?
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Joined: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:30 am Posts: 2875
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so here's a simple question that i'm assuming the answer should be YES to, but you just never know...
since
i've only owned an MPC2500 and a 1000, i'm wondering if all the earlier
models also use the same exact pad layout [as in the default MIDI note
assigned to each pad when you first turn the unit on]... this question
would of course exclude using the chromatic function available in
JJOS... for example, as soon as i turn on either of my MPCs the MIDI
notes for the first 8 pads in BANK A are as follows:
PAD 01: 37 [C#1] PAD 02: 36 [C1] PAD 03: 42 [F#1] PAD 04: 82 [A#4] PAD 05: 40 [E1] PAD 06: 38 [D#1] PAD 07: 46 [A#1] PAD 08: 44 [G#1] etc, etc...
and
i make keygroup programs in my S900 where i assign a single drum hit to
each of those pads... what i want to know is... if i were to plug in
any other MPC model into the S900 would the keygroup layout work the
same without having to reassign any of the MIDI notes?? in other words,
do all MPCs use the same MIDI pad layout? i just want to know if my
sample disks will work if controlled with any MPC model... i assume they
would, but just want to make sure... thanks...
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:44 am |
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peterpiper
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Re: Do all different MPC models have the same MIDI pad layou
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Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:04 pm Posts: 1263
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The 2000classic has the same mapping when i
create a new program. I guess the 3000 is also the same cause the MIDI
notes represent the General MIDI Drummap notenumbers The pads on the 2000 are just named "Pad1", "Pad2" etc. On the 3000 the Pads are named by the sound Pad1 = Sidestick (GM notenumber 37) Pad2 = Bass (GM notenumber 36) Pad3 = Clsd Hat (GM notenumber 42) Pad4
= Hat loose (this sound doesnt exist in the GM drummap so I guess thats
the reason this Pad has notenumber 82 wich is empty in the GM drummap) . . . . . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GMStandardDrumMap.gifThe MPC60 has a different order of sounds on the pads so I guess its mapping is differnt Pad1 = HiHat (I guess its the open one) Pad2 = Snare1 Pad3 = Snare2 Pad4 = Bass . . . . peace
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:34 am |
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mr_debauch
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Re: Do all different MPC models have the same MIDI pad layou
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Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:28 am Posts: 5837 Location: Montreal
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peterpiper wrote: The MPC60 has a different order of sounds on the pads so I guess its mapping is differnt
Pad1 = HiHat (I guess its the open one) Pad2 = Snare1 Pad3 = Snare2 Pad4 = Bass
peace
yeah
on the older OS it was closed HH, med HH, open HH, (those are all
going to be found on the hihat pad but the slider does the sample
switch) then pads 2 3 and 4 are as you said... then bank 2 is DRUM1 DRUM2 DRUM3 DRUM4 DRUM5 " " DRUM16
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:42 am |
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peterpiper
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Re: Do all different MPC models have the same MIDI pad layou
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I just searched for a reason for the
different layout and its simple: MPC60 was made in 1988. General MIDI
standard was created 1991 I just realized I fond an answer without a question. This has nothing to do with the MPC padlayout peace
Last edited by peterpiper on Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:57 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:53 am |
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crossings
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Re: Do all different MPC models have the same MIDI pad layou
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thanks for the input... is there a
comparison chart or something where the differences in MIDI layout
between the MPC models can be seen? if not, maybe we can all collaborate
& put something simple together for the benefit of everyone on the
forum... i was surprised at the fact that i couldn't find something like
this after searching...
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:55 am |
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peterpiper
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:51 am |
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crossings
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Re: Do all different MPC models have the same MIDI pad layou
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^^^ seems to be identical to the layout for the MPC1000 and MPC2500 as well...
ps: nice work with the graphics & all that, pete.
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:57 am |
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mr_debauch
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Re: Do all different MPC models have the same MIDI pad layou
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I would like to add, I believe the mpd16 is
the same as the above banks 1 and 2 until you actually change it...
though there is actually no way to tell on that controller alone... you
would have to hook it to something else that you know the number of the
sound you are hearing while pushing a pad.
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:04 am |
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Esquilo
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Re: Do all different MPC models have the same MIDI pad layou
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Does anybody know why they chose that layout. Chromatic would seem like a pretty logical default
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:06 am |
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mr_debauch
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Esquilo wrote: Does anybody know why they chose that layout. Chromatic would seem like a pretty logical default that is how the mv is set up as far as I remember... I would guess the 4000 would be also.
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:13 am |
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cyrus
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jjos2xl has chromatic
jjos1 i think
has both chromatic and default as described above (differance between
midi and drum track modes). something like that.
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:37 am |
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crossings
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Re: Do all different MPC models have the same MIDI pad layou
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if someone has the MPC 60, could they please
weigh in with the default MIDI layout on that?? and i'm also assuming
that the MPC 60II would use the same layout as whatever the 60 has...
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:02 am |
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mr_debauch
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Re: Do all different MPC models have the same MIDI pad layou
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crossings wrote: if
someone has the MPC 60, could they please weigh in with the default
MIDI layout on that?? and i'm also assuming that the MPC 60II would use
the same layout as whatever the 60 has... I will try and
take a look tomorrow, yeah the mkii is the same... not sure about the
various OSs though (2.12 and 3.1 are quite different in fact I believe
the 3.1 gives 2 entire extra pad banks though I am not sure 100%)
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